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Overcalling 3NT

#1 User is offline   fuburules3 

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Posted 2012-June-04, 23:39

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I know I deserve what I got for bidding 3NT given its description, but it would be nice if an overcall of 3NT did not have to be 25+ HCP and instead could be a hand with a source of tricks.
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Posted 2012-June-05, 04:08

If you double and then rebid 3NT afterwards it seems to usually show a weaker hand and then it probably wouldn't have raised.
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Posted 2012-June-05, 04:41

View PostAyunuS, on 2012-June-05, 04:08, said:

If you double and then rebid 3NT afterwards it seems to usually show a weaker hand and then it probably wouldn't have raised.


In this case I think it would raise to 4. In any event, IMO there should be a way to distinguish between a hand that is strong and balanced and one that has a source of tricks.
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Posted 2012-June-05, 07:31

View Postfuburules3, on 2012-June-05, 04:41, said:

In this case I think it would raise to 4.

Good prediction!
Actually, I think this 4N is particularly bad. North has shown his hand to be 6-10 total points, and partner signed off in game. There's no excuse for North to bid again. If South was at all interested in exploring slam opposite 6-10 total points, he would have bid something other than 3N.
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Posted 2012-June-05, 08:32

always difficult to handle this kind of hands with GIB. For me, i bid 1nt with south hand. Because if pd has 0-6, i don't think 3nt will make. Remember, GIB doesn't lead normally! I must hope pd has S and D stopper and if so, he will probably raise to 3nt or invite. As south has 14 HCP, if west has 10 HCP, he will X 1nt and i will be happy to play 1ntX. The only annoying thing is that GIB will transfer to H if he has H and i have to play H with 5-1.
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Posted 2012-June-05, 09:15

Bidding 1NT on the South hand is an abomination, although it may accomplish the desired result playing with GIB.

I learned a few things about playing with GIB by watching Leo LaSota. I bid 1NT on a lot of hands that I would never dream of calling 1NT playing with a human. It is very effective.
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Posted 2012-June-05, 19:22

View PostArtK78, on 2012-June-05, 09:15, said:

Bidding 1NT on the South hand is an abomination, although it may accomplish the desired result playing with GIB.

I learned a few things about playing with GIB by watching Leo LaSota. I bid 1NT on a lot of hands that I would never dream of calling 1NT playing with a human. It is very effective.

yes it is, cause alot of the times
the hands still belong to the opponents
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