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Team match, world class pd and opponents. 4♥ is not something discussed, definetely not choice of games.
Are we done or are we going or should we be doing something in the middle ?
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Posted 2012-June-29, 15:58
Team match, world class pd and opponents. 4♥ is not something discussed, definetely not choice of games.
Are we done or are we going or should we be doing something in the middle ?
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Posted 2012-June-29, 17:02
I think we have done enough. If partner has ♠AQ and four diamonds, he will work out by himself that his hand is golden.
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Posted 2012-June-29, 17:31
Partner last trains and I'm looking at the trump AKQ? RU serious?
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Posted 2012-June-29, 17:40
I don't believe we have AKQ of trumps.
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Posted 2012-June-29, 17:42
Phil, on 2012-June-29, 17:31, said:
Partner last trains and I'm looking at the trump AKQ? RU serious?
i agree partner last trained, but I am not looking at the AKQ of trumps, I am looking at the KJ8 of trumps. Still, the club finesse if needed is on, and we have only one loser in diamonds. I am pulling out blackwood over the last train...
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Posted 2012-June-29, 17:43
Phil, on 2012-June-29, 17:31, said:
Partner last trains and I'm looking at the trump AKQ? RU serious?
Partner could also have Ht-shortness for the 4H bid .
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Posted 2012-June-29, 17:46
Phil, on 2012-June-29, 17:31, said:
Partner last trains and I'm looking at the trump AKQ? RU serious?
Isnt trump ♠? 4♥ is definitely cooperative with slam idea, so I am an optimist......
Just out of curiosity, what is something in the middle between 4♥ and 4♠
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Posted 2012-June-29, 17:47
TWO4BRIDGE, on 2012-June-29, 17:43, said:
Partner could also have Ht-shortness for the 4H bid .
You mean something like
Axxxx x xxx xxxx
Qxxx x Axxx xxxx ?
I think stiff heart is perfectly fine for slam if thats what he has, as long as he doesnt have more than 4 clubs.
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Posted 2012-June-29, 18:05
cherdano, on 2012-June-29, 17:40, said:
I don't believe we have AKQ of trumps.
Details, petty details.
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Posted 2012-June-29, 18:14
Yu18772, on 2012-June-29, 17:46, said:
Just out of curiosity, what is something in the middle between 4♥ and 4♠
It means something that doesnt bid 4♠ and close or it dosnt ask aces and bid slam, some sort of retransfering the headache to pd bids.
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2012-June-29, 19:02
I will be in progress of a slam.
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Posted 2012-June-30, 00:13
First thought was bid in case partner has Axxxx of spades and out. But in that case, will he show the queen if i ask (I think not), or am I just driving opposite 1?
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Posted 2012-June-30, 00:33
MrAce, on 2012-June-29, 18:14, said:
It means something that doesnt bid 4♠ and close or it dosnt ask aces and bid slam, some sort of retransfering the headache to pd bids.
Wouldn't starting some kind of cue sequence now be kind of torturing the partner?
Yu
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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
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Posted 2012-June-30, 00:36
Yu18772, on 2012-June-30, 00:33, said:
Wouldn't starting some kind of cue sequence now be kind of torturing the partner?
Yu
YuI think the answer to your question lies in the quote of me
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2012-June-30, 00:56
MrAce, on 2012-June-30, 00:36, said:
I think the answer to your question lies in the quote of me
Lol - i guess I skipped the "headache".....
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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
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Posted 2012-June-30, 02:44
I think it's obvious to bid 4S. If partner has Axxxx in spades isn't he going to move again?
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Posted 2012-June-30, 04:57
FrancesHinden, on 2012-June-30, 02:44, said:
I think it's obvious to bid 4S. If partner has Axxxx in spades isn't he going to move again?
Yes. He'll probably move again with AQxx xx xxx xxxx too, which isn't much of a slam.
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Posted 2012-June-30, 12:30
Pd had
Qxxx
xx
Axxx
xxx
I went to slam. Things went smoothly when spades broke 2-2
Qxxx
xx
Axxx
xxx
I went to slam. Things went smoothly when spades broke 2-2
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2012-July-01, 03:36
Very close. I would probably bid 4♠ but maybe that is too timid. I expect exactly one nice filler card most likely for the last train 4♥.
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Posted 2012-July-01, 14:19
Pard showed something like 0-7 by bidding 1 ♠. After a 4 ♦ splinter, partner has bid 4 ♥. It has to be some sort of positive call. Most of the time, I'd expect partner to simply bid 4 ♠.
4 ♥ could be a number of things, but whatever it is, it has to be slam positive. So, I'd just bid 4 NT and go to slam if pard shows an A.
4 ♥ could be a number of things, but whatever it is, it has to be slam positive. So, I'd just bid 4 NT and go to slam if pard shows an A.