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1 Spade-2 Spades? What now?

#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2012-July-24, 21:54

♠KQJxxx
♥Kx
♦J
♣KQ9x

If it goes 1♠-2♠, isn't it normal to get to 4?

What about:

Pa-Pa-Pa-1♠
Pa-2♠-X-Pa
3♦-X-3♥-???

What would you do? Would you have done anything differently? No drury, minidrury, or Bergen.

No one is vulnerable and you're playing imp pairs.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2012-July-24, 22:31

I would invite with that hand, not jump to 4. If I have a short trial bid - then show ♦ single, if not 3♣.
In the auction you posted it depends on vulnerability, but it seems now that both A♣ and A♥ ave are on side. I would probably still bid 3♣ over the first double in any case, but wether to punish them or not is totally up to how much is the -2x contract versus how much is our game. RHO has ♣ and ♥, LHO and partner has ♦ and my guess that partner holds at least 3-4 hearts.

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Posted 2012-July-24, 23:04

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Posted 2012-July-24, 23:23

Maybe a game try, maybe just blast. but at the point:
1S (P) 2S (X)
!! Why pass? Did opener really expect to play 2S doubled? Bid 3C, whatever you have for a game try, or jump to 4S at that time. IMO, it looks like a game try hand, and that silly pass gave me no game tries. If there are any tries, partner won't understand that I am trying for game yet passed 2S.
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Posted 2012-July-25, 01:54

View PostHanoi5, on 2012-July-24, 21:54, said:

♠KQJxxx
♥Kx
♦J
♣KQ9x

If it goes 1♠-2♠, isn't it normal to get to 4?

What about:

Pa-Pa-Pa-1♠
Pa-2♠-X-Pa
3♦-X-3♥-???

What would you do? Would you have done anything differently? No drury, minidrury, or Bergen.



Sorry bro but it would have really helped if you told us the vulnerabilities and scoring type. I thought that was std now to mention it each time you give a hand and an auction, no ? :)
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Posted 2012-July-25, 04:14

I remain wondering why pass of the dble to 2S?
I assumed this was imps and the colors mean little really.

6/4 = a good playing hand, for me you bid 4S over dble.
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Posted 2012-July-25, 06:46

I wonder what a redouble of 2♠x should show.
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Posted 2012-July-25, 07:00

View Postbillw55, on 2012-July-25, 06:46, said:

I wonder what a redouble of 2♠x should show.

IMO, it should show a huge 5-3-3-2 opener suggesting possible penalty. Otherwise it would be as much of a waste of time to make a descriptive try for game as the pass was.
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Posted 2012-July-25, 09:33

View Postaguahombre, on 2012-July-24, 23:23, said:

Maybe a game try, maybe just blast. but at the point:
1S (P) 2S (X)
!! Why pass?


Exactly the time to pull the trigger on a game try and respect pards decision. The 2♠ raise could be just about anything including a small joke.
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Posted 2012-July-25, 09:33

I would bid 4♠ initially regardless of form of scoring or colors. Do you really want to give them room to find their 5♦ save?

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Posted 2012-July-25, 09:34

I would have bid 3♣ over the double, game try
imps odds favor us bidding a short point game.

don't let the double take away the bid you were going to make to start with



sort of the same type of problem I should have made my game try in ♠ just like
I planned on before the double, but the double side tracked me. Now had no idea if we
were bidding to make or should be doubling them, would have made life a lot easier for partner
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Posted 2012-July-25, 13:32

a bit pathetic not to be punting game on this collection.
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