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Is 1h=5c exclusion bw in your style or do you need to set trumps first, with say 2nt?
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Posted 2012-October-18, 13:03
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Posted 2012-October-18, 13:28
Yes, exclusion.
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Posted 2012-October-18, 16:45
Nope, need to set trump first. 5♣ to play for us.
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Posted 2012-October-18, 20:14
no,necessary to set trump at first,so 5c is to play.
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Posted 2012-October-18, 20:21
A good question to ask partner. Mine sets trumps first, and can save a bit of room with exclusion if we use a splinter.
Splinter, then 4N (or kickback) is exclusion of the splinter suit. Setting trumps via 2NT or whatever you use for balanced G.F. raises would be preparation for non-exclusion RKC.
So, we get to have 5m direct to play, if it ever comes up.
Splinter, then 4N (or kickback) is exclusion of the splinter suit. Setting trumps via 2NT or whatever you use for balanced G.F. raises would be preparation for non-exclusion RKC.
So, we get to have 5m direct to play, if it ever comes up.
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Posted 2012-October-19, 08:20
We set trumps first. If partner's first reply was at the 5 level I would assume natural, but it never happens.
The trouble with exclusion when you bid the suit, at least with my replies, is that the level can be too high. You may not want to commit to a slam without hearing replies. What we do is show a shortage after J2N (a splinter is weaker for us) and then bid one step higher than kickback to act as exclusion in the shortage suit. eg
1♥ 2♠(J2N, "have you a shortage") 2NT(no) 3♦(my shortage) 3♥(waiting, indeterminate) 4NT=exclusion ace ask, whereas 4♠ is ordinary ace ask implying a singleton rather than a void.
The trouble with exclusion when you bid the suit, at least with my replies, is that the level can be too high. You may not want to commit to a slam without hearing replies. What we do is show a shortage after J2N (a splinter is weaker for us) and then bid one step higher than kickback to act as exclusion in the shortage suit. eg
1♥ 2♠(J2N, "have you a shortage") 2NT(no) 3♦(my shortage) 3♥(waiting, indeterminate) 4NT=exclusion ace ask, whereas 4♠ is ordinary ace ask implying a singleton rather than a void.
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