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BBO Forums incorrect spelling has leaked into the outside world.

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Posted 2013-January-14, 07:13

From BT Yahoo Movie blog:

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This part of the speech lead many to speculate she had just announced her retirement


This is the second time I have seen this sort of thing in mass media in recent weeks. The writers must have learnt their English on these forums!
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Posted 2013-January-14, 07:40

What a bunch of loosers. ;)
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Posted 2013-January-14, 07:55

The second time in weeks? You must not read yahoo stories much. They frequently have spelling or grammar errors and I routinely find several per day.
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Posted 2013-January-14, 08:12

I don't see the mistake :(

BTW I remind all posters that they are wellcome to send me PMs pointing out grammar and spelling mistakes, I make a lot of typing mistakes also, but there is no need to PM me about them.
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Posted 2013-January-14, 08:14

The small difference, of course, is that those are professional writers, writing in their native language. We are a bunch of amateurs with many of us writing in our second (or third) language. There can only be one conclusion. They must be correct.

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Posted 2013-January-14, 08:45

View PostTrinidad, on 2013-January-14, 08:14, said:

The small difference, of course, is that those are professional writers, writing in their native language. We are a bunch of amateurs with many of us writing in our second (or third) language. There can only be one conclusion. They must be correct.


Well, quite. That is why non-native English speakers are doomed to learning incorrect spelling and grammar.
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Posted 2013-January-14, 08:50

View PostFluffy, on 2013-January-14, 08:12, said:

I don't see the mistake :(


The word "lead" was substituted for "led".

This error is particularly disconcerting to me as a reader, since the pronunciation is different; it sort of stops me in my tracks.
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Posted 2013-January-14, 08:52

View Postbillw55, on 2013-January-14, 07:55, said:

The second time in weeks? You must not read yahoo stories much. They frequently have spelling or grammar errors and I routinely find several per day.


It was the second time in weeks I saw this error.
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Posted 2013-January-14, 08:58

View PostVampyr, on 2013-January-14, 08:52, said:

It was the second time in weeks I saw this error.

"this sort of thing" implies a more general class of errors, not just this particular one. Don't make wording errors when you're complaining about someone else's writing.

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Posted 2013-January-14, 09:00

View Postbarmar, on 2013-January-14, 08:58, said:

"this sort of thing" implies a more general class of errors, not just this particular one. Don't make wording errors when you're complaining about someone else's writing.


Yes, you are right. Of course I meant the substitution of "lead" for "led"; I do not know why I phrased it in such a general way.
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Posted 2013-January-14, 09:46

View PostVampyr, on 2013-January-14, 08:50, said:

The word "lead" was substituted for "led".

This error is particularly disconcerting to me as a reader, since the pronunciation is different; it sort of stops me in my tracks.

The pronunciation depends on the context, of course. The metal "lead" is indeed pronouced in the same way as the past participle "led", and I think this is the reason why it is so common to see the present tense of the verb "lead" incorrectly used in place of "led".
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Posted 2013-January-14, 09:49

View PostVampyr, on 2013-January-14, 08:45, said:

Well, quite. That is why non-native English speakers are doomed to learning incorrect spelling and grammar.

One slight problem for non-native speakers is that the native speakers can't even agree on spelling or grammar.

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Posted 2013-January-14, 10:29

View PostWellSpyder, on 2013-January-14, 09:46, said:

The pronunciation depends on the context, of course. The metal "lead" is indeed pronouced in the same way as the past participle "led", and I think this is the reason why it is so common to see the present tense of the verb "lead" incorrectly used in place of "led".

It may also be related to the more common word "read". Its past tense is pronounced "red", but it's spelled "read", just like the present tense. This formation may bleed over in the mind to "lead".

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Posted 2013-January-14, 10:33

View PostWellSpyder, on 2013-January-14, 09:46, said:

The pronunciation depends on the context, of course. The metal "lead" is indeed pronouced in the same way as the past participle "led", and I think this is the reason why it is so common to see the present tense of the verb "lead" incorrectly used in place of "led".

View Postbarmar, on 2013-January-14, 10:29, said:

It may also be related to the more common word "read". Its past tense is pronounced "red", but it's spelled "read", just like the present tense. This formation may bleed over in the mind to "lead".


But how curious that a (native English-speaking) person could have heard of lead or any other element without having attended school... no, it's probably more that teaching spelling and grammar is no longer considered important, because it takes time away from teaching things like "empowerment" and "self-actualisation".

View PostTrinidad, on 2013-January-14, 09:49, said:

One slight problem for non-native speakers is that the native speakers can't even agree on spelling or grammar.


That's not true. There is a right way and there are wrong ways. Unfortunately, sources like newspapers, which non-native speakers would tend to trust, do not always use the right way.
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Posted 2013-January-14, 10:34

View PostTrinidad, on 2013-January-14, 09:49, said:

One slight problem for non-native speakers is that the native speakers can't even agree on spelling or grammar.

Rik


Many Brits know that if you want to get a higher quality of English spelling and grammar, you ask a Dutchman.
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Posted 2013-January-14, 10:36

View PostCyberyeti, on 2013-January-14, 10:34, said:

Many Brits know that if you want to get a higher quality of English spelling and grammar, you ask a Dutchman.


Surely a Scandinavian!
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Posted 2013-January-14, 11:16

View PostTrinidad, on 2013-January-14, 09:49, said:

One slight problem for non-native speakers is that the native speakers can't even agree on spelling or grammar.
Rik

View PostCyberyeti, on 2013-January-14, 10:34, said:

Many Brits know that if you want to get a higher quality of English spelling and grammar, you ask a Dutchman.

View PostVampyr, on 2013-January-14, 10:36, said:

Surely a Scandinavian!

Oh dear! We can't even agree on that.....
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Posted 2013-January-14, 11:39

View PostTrinidad, on 2013-January-14, 09:49, said:

One slight problem for non-native speakers is that the native speakers can't even agree on spelling or grammar.


View PostVampyr, on 2013-January-14, 10:33, said:

That's not true. There is a right way and there are wrong ways.


BullshitRubbish! There are two flavours of spelling. And native-speakers can't even agree whether they use a cart or a trolley to bring the prescriptions for theird cold their menthol sweets and bags of herbal tea from the drugstorechemist across the parking lotcar park to their station wagonestate car.
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Posted 2013-January-14, 11:46

View Postcherdano, on 2013-January-14, 11:39, said:

BullshitRubbish! There are two flavours of spelling. And native-speakers can't even agree whether they use a cart or a trolley to bring the prescriptions for theird cold their menthol sweets and bags of herbal tea from the drugstorechemist across the parking lotcar park to their station wagonestate car.


Yes, that much is true.
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Posted 2013-January-14, 11:51

View PostVampyr, on 2013-January-14, 10:33, said:

But how curious that a (native English-speaking) person could have heard of lead or any other element without having attended school...

Every 5-year-old who has played CLUE knows about lead pipes :-)
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