[Kungsgeten]

Unless my calculations are wrong (and they might be) it is the weak version in about 56.5% of the cases.

I've played a weak/strong pass system too (though 0-7 or 17+) and in our case the weak variant was much more frequent than the strong. But I guess you mean that the weak variant is more common? In our case the two versions were even more separated than yours, but I agree that it was pretty easy to handle overall. The main problem would probably be if both hands are strong (17+ in our case), but that never happend to us.

[borag]

Hi Kungsten,

I actually want give first version a try. I liked it Btw thanks for the very good response scheme of 1♣.
A few new ideas (just for fun)

1) put 14-16 hp 5m4m(31) hands into 1N
2) put 14-16 hp 6+m hands into 2N (3c=pas or correct, 3d=pas or bid 3 card major)

then 2m=10-13 hp 5+m, M<4.
I guess 1N is acceptable with a good response scheme and can foresee that 2N may hide some 5-3 major fits (when responder has hp<9.

But it is hard for opponents to compete

[whereagles]

Kungsgeten, on 2014-October-16, 05:49, said:

Unless my calculations are wrong (and they might be) it is the weak version in about 56.5% of the cases.

I've played a weak/strong pass system too (though 0-7 or 17+) and in our case the weak variant was much more frequent than the strong. But I guess you mean that the weak variant is more common? In our case the two versions were even more separated than yours, but I agree that it was pretty easy to handle overall. The main problem would probably be if both hands are strong (17+ in our case), but that never happend to us.

56.5% means it's basically 50-50 weak/strong. Did that ever give you trouble guessing what partner has?

In my two-way pass I've had some cases of 15-15. But the system is well geared towards fishing up those situations, so it was easy to sort it out when they came up.

[borag]

Hi Kungsten,

How do you continue with transfer openings ?

1♦ = 10-16 hp 4+♥
..1♥ = 3 card fit or no fit ?

[glen]

borag, on 2014-October-15, 13:37, said:

Stolen from awm,

1♣ = 11-13 hp bal / 17+ hp any
1♦ = 10-16 hp 4+♦
1♥ = 10-16 hp 4+♣
1♠ = 10-16 hp 5+♠
1N = 14-16 hp bal
2♣ = 10-16 hp 5+♥, ♠<4
2♦ = 10-16 hp 5+♥-4♠ (or 2♥ and 2♦ multi)

I like this, would tweak it to have:
2♣ = 13/14-16 hp 5+♥, 2♦ asks
2♦ = 9/10-13 hp 5+♥-4♠
2♥ = 9/10-13 hp 5+♥, ♠<4 (fantunes style)

[Kungsgeten]

borag, on 2014-October-16, 14:46, said:

Hi Kungsten,

How do you continue with transfer openings ?

1♦ = 10-16 hp 4+♥
..1♥ = 3 card fit or no fit ?

When we played transfer openings we used something like this:

1D (4+ hearts, not 4333 or 4432, may have longer minor)
..1H = Forcing, showing one of the hands below:
a) A GF hand wishing to use relays
b) A negative-NT type of hand, looking for the right partscore. Should have 2-card support.
c) INV or mildly slammish with 4+ support and a singleton
d) 4+ support, mildly slammish and a void
e) A constructive raise with 3-card support, about 8-10 hcp

The other responses to 1D were:
1S = Natural forcing, if only 4 spades then INV
1N = Transfer to clubs. Usually 5+ clubs but could be down to 3 if INV. 0+ hcp
2C = 5+ diamonds. 0+ hcp
2D = Limit raise with 3 card support OR constructive raise with 4 card support
2H = Weak 3+ raise
2S = Weak
2NT = Limit or slam interest opposite the right shortness from partner. 4+ support
Higher = Weak/to play

In this system we played 10-14 openings, and prior to that we played 8-11 openings (and the the ranges above were adjusted a bit)

[borag]

glen, on 2014-October-16, 16:37, said:

I like this, would tweak it to have:
2♣ = 13/14-16 hp 5+♥, 2♦ asks
2♦ = 9/10-13 hp 5+♥-4♠
2♥ = 9/10-13 hp 5+♥, ♠<4 (fantunes style)

Nice touch