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#21 User is offline   mikeh 

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Posted 2015-January-09, 06:45

View Posteagles123, on 2015-January-09, 06:34, said:

well like it or not I bid 1H. The bidding continues:



how many diamonds?

Two and I don't understand how any other answer makes sense. If you think that three could be right, why didn't you open 1D? You can't be too weak to reverse yet strong enough to jump shift
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Posted 2015-January-09, 08:02

I certainly agree that 2D is plenty. We might also pause to ask ourselves what is going on I have a 13 count and partner has passed. My lho passed, rho opponent has bid 2C, hardly a show of overwhelming strength. Where are the highs, and where are the spades? Maybe we start with where are the hearts? I think my lho has hearts and points. No guarantee, but that's what I think. And they will be finding their way to 3NT or to game in a black suit.

But that's all a bit speculative. If I bid my diamonds it may get me a diamond lead from partner, and I am going to settle for that. So 2D. If partner now gets active in contesting the auction, I will cooperate. But for now, 2D is enough.
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Posted 2015-January-12, 01:33

Somebody is sitting on more points than their bidding indicates and that someone is W. So why would would W, with at least 10HCP remain silent? Oh . . . he has s with us?

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Posted 2015-January-12, 07:19

View Posteagles123, on 2015-January-09, 06:34, said:

well like it or not I bid 1H. The bidding continues:



how many diamonds?


2,but I will bid 3 over 3
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Posted 2015-January-12, 10:01

While reading this thread I decided I prefer to open 1 on hands like this.

Last saturday they gave me void AKQ97 J108764 J5
Opps were silent (they should not have been).
I bid twice and then tried to find the brakes, but partner put me in slam anyway.
Bidding went:
1 - 1
2 - 3
3 - 4
5 - 6

Partner showed great judgement with his 7 hcp dummy:
98732 52 AK932 2

This lay down slam was bid 3 times at 24 tables and it gained us 11 imps.
So thanks for posting!
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Posted 2015-January-12, 10:05

View Postmikeh, on 2015-January-09, 06:45, said:

Two and I don't understand how any other answer makes sense. If you think that three could be right, why didn't you open 1D? You can't be too weak to reverse yet strong enough to jump shift

But this isn't a jump shift. Partner passed and opps are taking over the auction so my jump is semi-preemptive. I am showing good playing strength but I am not showing extra points.

I would be concerned about partner taking preference to hearts, though. But assuming that partner knows that I open 1 with this hand, maybe some larger number of diamonds is ok.
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Posted 2015-January-14, 07:05

View Postdicklont, on 2015-January-12, 10:01, said:

Last saturday they gave me void AKQ97 J108764 J5
Partner showed great judgement with his 7 hcp dummy:

I trust you would also congratulate partner on their excellent judgement had you held: J5 AKQ97 J108764 void or 5 AKQ97 J108764 J.
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Posted 2015-January-14, 14:14

View Postmikeh, on 2015-January-07, 20:05, said:

1D. Rock-bottom for me, and it is so close that I would open 1H if 0=5=6=2. Suit quality is just good enough to reverse. Wouldn't do it with say Kx KJxxx AQxxxx void.

Those who say hearts are tough to find are too pessimistic and while hearts score more, that is true only when both denominations make the same number of tricks. I heard a rumour once that bidding one's shape makes finding the best denomination easier. Let's go out on a limb and bid descriptively, rather than masterminding. Who knows? Maybe partner's a bridge player.


I am also in the 1h camp but change the spade J to the heart j and i am with you in opening 1d
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Posted 2015-January-14, 15:27

View Postdicklont, on 2015-January-12, 10:01, said:

While reading this thread I decided I prefer to open 1 on hands like this.

Last saturday they gave me void AKQ97 J108764 J5
Opps were silent (they should not have been).
I bid twice and then tried to find the brakes, but partner put me in slam anyway.
Bidding went:
1 - 1
2 - 3
3 - 4
5 - 6

Partner showed great judgement with his 7 hcp dummy:
98732 52 AK932 2

This lay down slam was bid 3 times at 24 tables and it gained us 11 imps.
So thanks for posting!

I shudder at the idea that anything I posted is being blamed for this lucky result. I would have opened 1 due to the poor diamond texture. AKQxx QJ10xxx would get me to 1, but not a J high suit.
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