You hold some 5=2=3=3 hand, with something like Kxx or KJx of clubs. Would you ever try 2♦ here (catering to partner's 1453/2452 shapes, and hoping it's as good as anything else otherwise)? Or always 2♠, or 2nt despite being quite minimum?
Similarly, how about 2♥ on some 5=3=2=3 or 5=3=1=4 hands?
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1s-(2c)-x-(p)-?
#3
Posted 2015-March-03, 22:38
With a 5-3-3-2 hand where one of the 3-baggers is the Club suit with stopper(s), I always bid 2NT.
Otherwise, yes, a 3-card red suit is biddable for us. Partner's free red suit bid instead of that Neg double remains game-force..not a majority treatment, but it might influence our decision making.
Otherwise, yes, a 3-card red suit is biddable for us. Partner's free red suit bid instead of that Neg double remains game-force..not a majority treatment, but it might influence our decision making.
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)
#4
Posted 2015-March-04, 02:29
I often bid a 3-card suit here.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
#5
Posted 2015-March-04, 03:05
I would basically always bid a 3 card red suit in this auction. Maybe I might try 2S on KQJTx or something, but I don't remember not bidding 2red with these patterns. With 5(31)4 I would usually pass, but obviously depends on my hand.
The artist formerly known as jlall
#6
Posted 2015-March-04, 07:17
If you're 5=3=3=2, should you bid the better 3-card suit, or should you tend to prefer one over the other?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
#7
Posted 2015-March-04, 08:58
Thanks, I was just trying to be sure I wasn't being nutty trying a 3 cd red suit. Opp bid 3♣, partner made an agreed bad 3♦ call (probably wrong even if I guaranteed 4), down a lot. Worse when teammates found 2♦ the other way, tried a 1nt overcall instead of 2♣ and partner tried stayman on 4441.
#8
Posted 2015-March-04, 15:13
gnasher, on 2015-March-04, 07:17, said:
If you're 5=3=3=2, should you bid the better 3-card suit, or should you tend to prefer one over the other?
I prefer to bid 2d. The downside is that partner might be 1534 but won't be 1354, but it is a small range that makes a neg x with that shape anyways. The upside is partner is less likely to make an aggressive game try/game bid IMO. And if the auction gets competitive he can usually count on me having 4 hearts when I bid 2h (sometimes he can rule out 5323 or his guess is simply more likely to work).
I am not at all sure what the general consensus is on this though, it's just what I do, interested in more opinions and your thoughts.
The artist formerly known as jlall
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