Balance or not?
#2
Posted 2015-August-04, 08:02
-gwnn
#3
Posted 2015-August-04, 08:03
#4
Posted 2015-August-04, 08:18
#5
Posted 2015-August-04, 08:22
aguahombre, on 2015-August-04, 08:18, said:
That is a very pessimistic outlook
#6
Posted 2015-August-04, 08:55
PhantomSac, on 2015-August-04, 08:22, said:
Yes it is; and I fully expect to be in a very small minority with my view..
#8
Posted 2015-August-04, 10:21
aguahombre, on 2015-August-04, 08:18, said:
I don't understand this. Why do we want them in 2♥ if we think it will make?
My main worry is that partner will assume we are something like 4=1=4=4, and convert with only 4 trump, but even then they may fail. Kokish used to say (I don't know if he still does) that if they don't make some doubled partscores against you, you aren't doubling enough partscores. I double.
#12
Posted 2015-August-04, 17:31
#13
Posted 2015-August-04, 19:22
#14
Posted 2015-August-05, 06:42
#15
Posted 2015-August-05, 07:04
#16
Posted 2015-August-05, 09:16
PhilKing, on 2015-August-04, 10:44, said:
nige1, on 2015-August-04, 11:20, said:
Not the same. PhilK thinks I am right in my prediction that I will be in the minority; he doesn't think my pass is right.
Mikeh doesn't understand why I want the opponents to play in 2H. It is because I don't want them playing in 2Hx and I don't want to play 3m in the likely 7-card fit if partner is 4432 or 3532. My decision is what it is, and so is my pessimism. Have been wrong before, and would not expect our table result to be matched at IMPs or at MP; I just accept the variance, and my grid of comparative results (prejudiced as it is) shows net IMP gains.
#17
Posted 2015-August-05, 10:21
aguahombre, on 2015-August-05, 09:16, said:
Mikeh doesn't understand why I want the opponents to play in 2H.
Oh, I understand why you would decide to pass, and I empathize with the view, but usually when someone says that we have the opps 'right where we want them' it is because we think the opps are in what is, for them, a bad spot. If they are in a bad spot, we need to double and defend. I suspect it is just that I misunderstood your point. I take it that you think that while they are currently in their best spot, action now is more likely to improve their result than to worsen it, and I can understand that thinking, while not agreeing with it on this hand.
#18
Posted 2015-August-05, 17:38
#19
Posted 2015-August-05, 18:00
PhantomSac, on 2015-August-04, 19:22, said:
IMO, 2S makes a lot of sense as 4S/5+C. With longer diamonds, you could elc at some point, but with club heavy blacks you never have a great option.
-P.J. Painter.
#20
Posted 2015-August-05, 20:50
kenrexford, on 2015-August-05, 18:00, said:
Offering 2S as a possible contract on a 4 card suit makes very little sense to me after a 1S opening on my left. I am sure that there are layouts on which this would lead to a playable contract, but IMO there will be far more layouts where we have landed in the crap with no place to run, having painted an excellent picture of our hand for the benefit of the opps
So do I!
Not clear-cut but I rank
1. Pass. Partner didn't double 1♠, so we might not have them out-gunned. If opponents play Gazilli, they could have an 8+ ♥ fit.
2. Double. OK at MPs but brave otherwise. Because partner, looking at 4+ ♥s, will usually pass and your double might help declarer to make his contract. Might be better if we had a ♥ to lead.
3. 2N. Might be OK because you could end up defending 3♥.