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I lead a club, my longest side suit. The club lead is also implied by the dbl. If one of my red suits was 5+ cards, I might lead that instead.
If partner has 2 tricks only if I make a "safe" lead, then the dbl is a poor dbl and I need a new partner. Even so, it is unlikely that leading away from J9xx is going to cost a trick that partner was hoping for.
Without the dbl, I would probably lead a trump as the safest lead. I'd hate to lead a red suit and catch partner with Kxxx while declarer had AQ9
What do you lead?
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Posted 2005-April-29, 16:23
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Posted 2005-April-29, 16:29
Double !, on Apr 29 2005, 04:57 PM, said:
getting more concerned.
vote so far seems to be about 7 to 1 for a club lead
why is this hand being surveyed?
I have my suspicion that the doubler had 2 red aces and doubled because he was going teach that 6 spade bidder a lesson and get double penalty bonus points (more imps/ "greedy"), but partner, instead, interpreted it as lightner, led a club, and presented declarer with 12 tricks before the defense could get two. And then the doubler yelled at opening leader, made typical comments, and abruptly left the table, never acknowledging that he/she had triggered the disaster by doubling because P was leading a red card without the double. If this scenario was indeed the case, then I would love to see the chat log that followed (to check for spelling errors, vocabulary, grammar, 4-letter words, etc.)
vote so far seems to be about 7 to 1 for a club lead
why is this hand being surveyed?
I have my suspicion that the doubler had 2 red aces and doubled because he was going teach that 6 spade bidder a lesson and get double penalty bonus points (more imps/ "greedy"), but partner, instead, interpreted it as lightner, led a club, and presented declarer with 12 tricks before the defense could get two. And then the doubler yelled at opening leader, made typical comments, and abruptly left the table, never acknowledging that he/she had triggered the disaster by doubling because P was leading a red card without the double. If this scenario was indeed the case, then I would love to see the chat log that followed (to check for spelling errors, vocabulary, grammar, 4-letter words, etc.)
If people really double with 2 red aces, they should be shot.
A ) A random jump to slam often indicates a void. Even if it doesnt its doubtful that a guy off alot of aces would just jump to slam. If he does have a void theres a good chance he will XX.
B ) You are turning your expected value of +50 into +100 IF your aces cash. WOWWWWWWW big deal.
C ) The X may induce pard to make a bad lead, causing you to not get your aces when you would have otherwise.
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Posted 2005-April-29, 16:38
Justin:
I know that.
I'm just saying that, to adulterate a song, "Nobody knows the doubles I've seen. Nobody knows but..............."
And nobody knows the number of times I've seen the poor unfortunate, learned player, whose reasoning was exactly as you just posted, get reamed by his self-righteous, soon-to-be ex-partner for making the only lead to give the contract away when he (so he thought) had the hand set in his hand if only partner hadn't made such a "stoopid" lead. I think you now see my point.
That's why the longer the actually hand doesn't get posted, the more suspicious I'm becoming about what's going on with this hand?
Please note that I posted leading a club when this thread first appeared.
I know that.
I'm just saying that, to adulterate a song, "Nobody knows the doubles I've seen. Nobody knows but..............."
And nobody knows the number of times I've seen the poor unfortunate, learned player, whose reasoning was exactly as you just posted, get reamed by his self-righteous, soon-to-be ex-partner for making the only lead to give the contract away when he (so he thought) had the hand set in his hand if only partner hadn't made such a "stoopid" lead. I think you now see my point.
That's why the longer the actually hand doesn't get posted, the more suspicious I'm becoming about what's going on with this hand?
Please note that I posted leading a club when this thread first appeared.
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