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#1 User is offline   helene_t 

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Posted 2020-August-30, 17:53

Let's say you got a diamond lead

Hand 20 from last year's Venice Cup was cute, I thought.

Hearts or clubs could split, of course, but what extra chances do you have on a passive lead?
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Posted 2020-September-01, 03:43

From the title, Helene, I am visualising a situation where both s and s don't break, but where a defender with Jxxx is thrown in with either the fourth club or the A to lead into or up to or into the Q10. It needs good timing and card-reading. I would start by leading up to the Q. When that (presumably) holds, cash three rounds of s, four rounds of s, two rounds of and then make a decision who to throw in.

Maybe there is a better line but I have only looked at this quickly.
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Posted 2020-September-01, 16:40

You are probably right that it's best to start with a small spade towards the queen. If it doesn't hold we may a rectified the count for a clubs-hearts squeeze, and if it does hold, it may be reasonably safe to assume that North has A.

Another option is a Morton's Fork against South, playing her for A as well as Jxxx. We play a small spade from dummy and work towards this 6-card ending:

863 K5 J ==== Q AQT6 8

South has discarded a spade on the 3rd club. Both follow to 3 rounds of diamonds.

We now play J. North discards a small spade. This means that North wasn't squeezed in three suits (North could have held A Jxxx J but that wasn't the case) so we throw dummy's club and cash K and A. We now have

863 ==== Q QT

If hearts split, whoever has A will also have a club (North) or a spade (South) to cash, but on the other hand, if hearts don't split, our only chance now is that South has A Jx.

When I wrote this post I didn't realize that we also could have a throw-in against North because if North exits a heart, we can play T from dummy so we cater to both Jxxx and xxx by North.

So maybe not so interesting as I thought - Felicia's plan is best but as it happened it was an inferior plan that worked.

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Posted 2020-September-01, 18:58

Helene_T "Hand 20 from last year's Venice Cup was cute, I thought. Let's say you got a diamond lead. Hearts or clubs could split, of course, but what extra chances do you have on a passive lead?"
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Thank you, Helene_T. Presumably, the layout was something like that on the left. (Rotated to make South declarer). Interesting Morton's fork avoidance-play and fork-strip. In practice, I'd always fail :( ... unless self-kibitzing. :)

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Posted 2020-September-02, 03:44

Nigel's layout is also fun on a low spade lead. Declarer has to play low in dummy to set up the Morton's Fork/endplay. If he does play high, East has to return 4 - only card to break up the double squeeze.
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Posted 2020-September-02, 07:02

Paradoxically, if hearts are 5-1 rather than 4-2, declarer has a much better chance of success.
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Posted 2020-September-02, 08:56

I think this is the third place I see this hand :), there was one on Bridge Winners where it was discussed at lenght.
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