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Overcalling when holding values in ops opening suit

#1 User is offline   stevelilly 

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Posted 2024-June-09, 03:03

We're playing ACOL and East opens 1S. What do you bid as South, holding KJ92,A,A982,K865?
DBL says I can support any other suit bar spades,and 1NT says I'm balanced. Neither of which is true.
I passed, which allowed East to play in 1S for a top board.
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Posted 2024-June-09, 03:27

Pass is normal, 1NT is also an acceptable alternative but will frequently land you in a poor hearts contract if partner has some length there. My guess is you just got unlucky on that particular board.
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Posted 2024-June-09, 08:27

I would double with that hand - but we play unusual responses to handle off-shape doubles.
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Posted 2024-June-09, 08:43

A straightforward X for me playing Power doubles and NT takeouts.

Playing standard I'm inclined to 1NT; I usually need extra strength when unbalanced, but KJ♠ onside provides mitigation.
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Posted 2024-June-09, 14:02

A straightforward pass for me. The next question is what did your partner hold to pass, and why was this a bottom board..
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Posted 2024-June-10, 00:36

View Postsmerriman, on 2024-June-09, 14:02, said:

A straightforward pass for me. The next question is what did your partner hold to pass, and why was this a bottom board..


Many balanced hands of around 7 or 8 points will make 110/120 but not take 150 out of 1♠.

I would overcall 1N, but accept many will pass.
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Posted 2024-June-10, 00:47

Nige1 used to award points:
1NT = 9
Pass = 8
2C/2D = 2
Dbl = 1
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Posted 2024-June-10, 01:44

View PostTramticket, on 2024-June-10, 00:47, said:

Nige1 used to award points:
1NT = 9
Pass = 8
2C/2D = 2
Dbl = 1

2NT both minors - has to be better than X if you correct after ♥s?
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Posted 2024-June-10, 10:07

I pass
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Posted 2024-June-11, 02:29

Pass.

If you cant stand Pass, bid 1NT.

As it is, the hand has 15HCP, but there are better 15 counts out there.

If they are vul, Pass gets more attractive, -1 beats 1NT=.

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