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Temperature check

Poll: Temperature check (37 member(s) have cast votes)

Temperature check

  1. 3H (14 votes [37.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.84%

  2. 2H (14 votes [37.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.84%

  3. 1H (7 votes [18.92%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.92%

  4. Pass (2 votes [5.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.41%

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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2010-September-19, 11:41

P (P) ?

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Posted 2010-September-19, 11:46

ooops 3H, 2H, 1H :)
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Posted 2010-September-19, 11:47

6 loser hand at unfavorable in 3rd seat, hmm...

Choices are Pass and 2♥, since I'm in 3rd seat I'll go for opening.
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Posted 2010-September-19, 11:47

1S for me, psyching a pre empt has never seemed so good idea.
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Posted 2010-September-19, 12:10

3h because if they have spades 2h isn't really that much pressure.
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Posted 2010-September-19, 12:15

MP 3♥
IMPS 2♥
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Posted 2010-September-19, 12:25

jillybean, on Sep 20 2010, 05:46 AM, said:

ooops 3H, 2H, 1H :)

Are you suggesting a psyche is out of the question?
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Posted 2010-September-19, 12:28

Flameous, on Sep 19 2010, 06:47 PM, said:

1S for me, psyching a pre empt has never seemed so good idea.

in what way is 3♥ a psyche?
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Posted 2010-September-19, 12:38

I'd try 2♥, though not happy about it.
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Posted 2010-September-19, 12:39

Cascade, on Sep 19 2010, 11:25 AM, said:

jillybean, on Sep 20 2010, 05:46 AM, said:

ooops  3H, 2H, 1H  :)

Are you suggesting a psyche is out of the question?

Good point ;)
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Posted 2010-September-19, 13:02

Its probably the wrong vulnerability.

I once did psyche a 3♥ opening.

The bidding proceeded

3♥ ... lots of questions including "how many hearts does that show" eventually my LHO doubled

Partner passed and RHO bid 3♠ which pleased me as my hand looked much more like a 3♠ bid than a 3♥ bid

I passed and LHO repeated his barrage of questions and then bid 4♥!!!!!!

All passed :) - it wasn't an important tournament and i did not even bother to call the director.
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Posted 2010-September-19, 13:15

Anyway 1♥ for me - why pretend to be weak when you can pretend to be strong :)
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Posted 2010-September-19, 13:38

2♥ and I was excited when I thought we were being offered the chance to psych, in which case I would have chosen 2♠.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2010-September-19, 13:39

Obviously if you were going to psych a spade bid you would want it to be 2 instead of 3, as it will steal spades from the opponents just as easily but with a little less risk of how high partner might raise you, plus if you simply get stuck playing it there you will be a level lower.

But on this I would choose 1♥, it's a bit light for me but way too much defense outside to preempt and passing doesn't feel right.
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Posted 2010-September-19, 14:21

2H, not going to do anything brilliant red against white. 2H seems normal to me actually, surprised to see so many other votes.
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Posted 2010-September-19, 19:05

I would pass - too much outside for a preempt for me. I do not expect this to be a popular choice.
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Posted 2010-September-19, 19:13

hanp, on Sep 19 2010, 02:21 PM, said:

2H, not going to do anything brilliant red against white. 2H seems normal to me actually, surprised to see so many other votes.

I find nothing normal about showing the wrong number of hearts, the wrong quality of hearts, and the wrong number of outside honors.

1H feels about right, since it doesn't say anything other than I wanted to open 1H..
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Posted 2010-September-19, 19:15

Agree with 2♥. It has more defence than partner will expect but offbeat preempts in third seat often work. 3♥ is too much. 1♥ is ok but I prefer to preempt and make them guess. There should be an analogous rule to Hamman's law that if one of your options is a preempt, then choose that one.
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Posted 2010-September-19, 19:51

Whose law says, "Try to restrict the number of opponents to two."?
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Posted 2010-September-19, 21:01

Psyching with this much defence is silly. I would bid 2H in third seat. Fwiw, if this were in first seat, I would certainly pass.
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