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A bidding problem Same hand, two different auctions

Poll: A bidding problem (20 member(s) have cast votes)

1[hearts]-P-2[hearts]-?

  1. 2S (8 votes [40.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

  2. 3C (1 votes [5.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  3. 3H (4 votes [20.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  4. 4C (if leaping micheals) (2 votes [10.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  5. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Pass (5 votes [25.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

1[hearts]-P-4[hearts]-?

  1. 4S (7 votes [35.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.00%

  2. 5C (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Other (1 votes [5.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  4. Pass (12 votes [60.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 60.00%

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Posted 2012-February-02, 06:45



You are Vul vs Not.

What do you bid on the two auctions above?
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Posted 2012-February-02, 07:01

There is no "pass" option in both cases, despite the fact that partner passed and we are red against white?
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Posted 2012-February-02, 07:08

View PostCodo, on 2012-February-02, 07:01, said:

There is no "pass" option in both cases, despite the fact that partner passed and we are red against white?


Sorry, an oversight, fixed it now.
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Posted 2012-February-02, 08:33

1. 3H seems clear. Shape rulezzzz.

2. Normally pass, but 4S if I feel lucky. I'll worry about the clubs if this gets doubled :)
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Posted 2012-February-02, 10:01

1. I probably should have chosen the OBAR 2S bid; Michaels, leaping or straight, at these colors is a disaster waiting to happen. But, I wimped a pass.

2. Maybe I don't understand the Scottish humor prompting the question.
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Posted 2012-February-02, 10:37

View Postaguahombre, on 2012-February-02, 10:01, said:

2. Maybe I don't understand the Scottish humor prompting the question.


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When this hand went round my email thread a number of good players voted for 4S (including myself). Hence the poll.

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Posted 2012-February-02, 11:42

1-2

2-4, i thought this was easy, after all we are completing the transfer, no ?
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Posted 2012-February-02, 12:41

1. 3. I'm planning on bidding 4 over 4, or 3 over 3 even though this feels kind of sick to me. If I am not planning on competing, then why wouldn't I try to get my shape across?

2. 4. Easier than the 1st.
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Posted 2012-February-02, 12:53

A lot depends on how the 4 bid is defined, to me. If it's a preemptive game bid with a singleton somewhere and 5 trumps, I'd venture 4 and think again if doubled back to me. If it's a mixed bid or if there's any chance responder has a decent hand I wouldn't touch it.

On a good day, partner will have good support for a black suit. On a bad day, he'll have 2 small black doubletons and KJ9 in both red suits.

I don't like Michaels on the first auction because I really would rather find a spade game if it's there, rather than languish in a club partscore; I will keep my clubs a secret if they win the auction. And if they do, the declarer isn't going to appreciate all 4 suits splitting poorly. Why tell him in advance?
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