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Posted 2012-July-12, 17:23

♠AJ97xx
♥KJ
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Teams, all white:

(Pass)-???

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2012-July-12, 17:45

Easy 2♠. WTP? B-)
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Posted 2012-July-12, 17:46

I pass in second seat.
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Posted 2012-July-12, 18:57

easy 1s wtp?
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Posted 2012-July-12, 19:01

2♠ playing disciplined 2nd seat. Good description of hand w/w. Agree w/ Statto. Not enough defense for 1 bid.
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Posted 2012-July-12, 23:08

Pass playing disciplined 2nd seat. It doesn't have 2 out of 3 or 3 out of 5.
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Posted 2012-July-13, 01:59

View Postmikl_plkcc, on 2012-July-12, 23:08, said:

Pass playing disciplined 2nd seat. It doesn't have 2 out of 3 or 3 out of 5.

But it does have 4 of the top 8. One of the problems with playing overly-disciplined weak 2s (and passing those which don't quite make the grade) is that when you come in on the second round partner doesn't have much idea exactly why you decided not to open in the first place. Your spades might be too weak, or you might have a 4 card major on the side, or 2 Aces, or whatever other feature you consider to be a flaw. So you have frequently lost the ability to get the first blow in in the auction, without gaining that much by the extra definition (as even when you do get to open your weak 2, partner's response is often not really helped by the knowledge that you have a pure weak 2).
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Posted 2012-July-13, 02:34

If only we had an opening bid that showed 6 decent spades and less than a 1♠ opening. Perhaps ken could come up with something esoteric to help out here.
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Posted 2012-July-13, 04:17

2♠
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Posted 2012-July-13, 04:19

2S. Why pass?
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Posted 2012-July-13, 05:22

Too good for 2♠ by our methods, I'd open 1♠, my partner might pass.
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Posted 2012-July-13, 06:40

View PostZelandakh, on 2012-July-13, 02:34, said:

If only we had an opening bid that showed 6 decent spades and less than a 1♠ opening. Perhaps ken could come up with something esoteric to help out here.

lol yes. What is the point of having weak 2♠ on the card (or multi if that is your style) if you aren't going to use it on this hand nonvulnerable?

And mike777, ♥KJ tight is such a big negative that I don't think this is close to a one level opener.
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Posted 2012-July-13, 06:58

2♠ without a second thought
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Posted 2012-July-13, 07:14

2 ♠ even playing disciplined weak 2s in 1st and 2nd seat.
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Posted 2012-July-13, 08:31

2♠ or alert the opps that you are NEVER max for any of your bids. The notion that this is not good enough is for people that are never seen without an umbrella, just in case.

I would still open 2♠ if playing intermediate (10-14) though.
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Posted 2012-July-13, 08:39

At white, this is a weak 2-bid. We are a bit neanthrathal about suit quality when vul, but NV either open 2S or take the bid off the card. Agree with the Whiz, above, when he touches on a possible CPU.
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Posted 2012-July-13, 08:54

I am opening this 2♠, and I play disciplined Weak 2s in all seats. Over partner's 3♥, I am supporting the suit.
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Posted 2012-July-14, 01:21

View PostCyberyeti, on 2012-July-13, 05:22, said:

Too good for 2♠ by our methods, I'd open 1♠, my partner might pass.

And of course your partner never drives to a hopeless game or slam when you open such hands with 1♠

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Posted 2012-July-14, 04:00

View PostLurpoa, on 2012-July-13, 23:11, said:

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Transfer I presume? B-)
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Posted 2012-July-14, 05:19

I don't think 3S is terrible but now's not the time for it. Hmmm ok maybe it is terrible. 1S is possible if you play 10-14 openings.
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