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#1 User is offline   ArtK78 

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Posted 2013-June-24, 08:07

Regional Swiss Teams (7 board matches, IMPs converted to VPs).

Early in the day in a small regional swiss teams, you hold this hand:

Axx
ATx
xx
AJxxx

Vul against not, you open the bidding in 1st seat and the bidding goes as follows:

1♣ - (2♥) - 2♠ - (5♥)
x - (P) - 5♠ - (P)
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1) Do you agree with the double of 5♥?
2) What now and why?
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Posted 2013-June-24, 08:23

Partner has a lot of good spades to bid 5♠. But he must have more than just that, since he would have jumped to 4♠ on the previous round if he only had a lot of good spades.

I would bid 6♠, expecting it to make. I would like to fish for 7♠, but things will get murky and it is better to be happy with the small slam.

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Posted 2013-June-24, 08:43

edit: I just now realized that I misread the hand and my previous comment makes no sense. lol at me.
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Posted 2013-June-24, 09:09

I do not like the double. I would try 6S at this point.
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Posted 2013-June-27, 07:21

3 aces does not a minimum hand make in a game forcing pass
situation. The very fact that we are now wonderring if we can make
6/7 merely adds emphasis to the first sentence. Bid 6s since it's too
difficult at this point to convince p we have a legitimate shot at 7.


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Posted 2013-June-27, 09:06

I agree with double when pass is not forcing only.

I would bid 6 now.
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Posted 2013-June-27, 10:03

pass should be forcing imo and that's what we should have done. as for what to do now, our hand is very pretty with 3 bangers and 3 trumps, but our ace of hearts is obv opposite a void.

i would like to bid 6 clubs, which should be a grand try imo. i don't see how you can have a hand that makes a penalty X of 5h and then pulls 5s to 6c. still, i wouldn't wheel it out at the table for obvious reasons.

5nt is a good compromise. encouraging with much less chance of being misinterpreted.
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Posted 2013-June-27, 10:17

2S indeed created a FP situation for us; but I don't understand why it would for all the folks who play it as only 1-round forcing. So, I can't judge the double of 5H for anyone else. If I had doubled 5H, it would be wrong.

6S now, although if I had doubled 5H in our FP I would be seriously concerned that I had screwed up a Grand.
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Posted 2013-June-27, 10:48

You did not screw up a grand, but I did make 7. Here are the hands:

Axx
ATx
xx
AJxxx

QJT9xx
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KQ
Kxxxx

The ♠K was onside singleton.

I ruffed the opening heart lead and drew trump. Dummy's spot was big enough to win the third round of spades. I played a diamond off dummy. When RHO ducked, the diamond loser went away on dummy's ♥A.

My partner passed 5♠ but we did win one IMP on the board.
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Posted 2013-June-27, 15:49

Art, what would be 3♠ over 2♥ by responder in your agreements? Splinter ? Natural ? Fit showing natural ? Weak ?
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Posted 2013-June-27, 15:59

 ArtK78, on 2013-June-24, 08:07, said:

Regional Swiss Teams (7 board matches, IMPs converted to VPs).
Early in the day in a small regional swiss teams, you hold this hand: ♠ A x x ♥ A T x ♦ x x ♣ A J x x x
Vul against not, you open the bidding in 1st seat and the bidding goes as follows:
1♣ - (2♥) - 2♠ - (5♥)
x - (P) - 5♠ - (P)
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1) Do you agree with the double of 5♥?
2) What now and why?
IMO
  • Over 5♥, Double = 10, Pass = 9, 5♠ = 8, 6♠ = 5. I don't think partner's 2♠ creates an FP context.
  • After 5♠, 6♠ = 10, Pass = 8, 6♥ = 5, 7♠ = 3.

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Posted 2013-June-28, 07:26

3 bullets, a five card suit, I would have probably bid 6, too.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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