Your turn..
#1
Posted 2014-November-26, 17:05
♠AKQx
♥QTxxx
♦Jxx
♣x
1♥-2N*
3♦*-3♠*
3N*-4♣*
4♦*-?
2N=Jacoby
3♦=extras, no shortness
3♠=control
3N=undiscussed
4♣=control
4♦=control
Agree up to here? Now what?
Junior - Always looking for new partners to improve my play with..I have my fair share of brilliancy and blunders.
"Did your mother really marry a Mr Head and name her son Richard?" - jillybean
#2
Posted 2014-November-26, 17:13
Responder has an adjusted 5 loser hand with the ten card h fit.
not sure how little pard might have for extras but this should be cold:
a minimum extra hand might be:
xx..AKxxx...AK....Qxxx
#3
Posted 2014-November-26, 22:24
The way your auction played out, you have no clue whether opener has [xx AKJxx KQx Axx] (slam is laydown), or [xx AKJxx Axx KQx] (slam is hopeless).
If you simply describe your hand on the first round with a 4C splinter, you can trust partner to make the right decision.
#4
Posted 2014-November-27, 00:16
fwiw I think both example hands are far too good to rebid 3nt rather than a 4c cuebid over 3s. After the 4c cue responder has an easy 4h rebid and opener has a decision to make to continue or not.
It helps a lot if 3nt implies no club control.
#5
Posted 2014-November-27, 01:11
Additionally, what is partner's view on opening a strong 1NT with a 5 card major. If I was playing with a clone of me, I'm gonna guess there is a balanced 17-19 count over there. Playing a 15-17 NT if partner always opens 1NT with a 5 card major (and it's hearts we are raising so he is more likely to have), partner has 17+ to 19- (or he might have opened 2NT)
I agree with WesleyC it would have been nice to splinter, but as I cannot do that, I'm going to wheel out blackwood and punt.
Edit: Did a really primitive sim (south holds this hand, north has a 17-19 NT with a 5332 shape and the A or K of diamonds):
Slam makes: 83%
Grand makes: 70 times of 273
Small Slam makes: 155 times of 273
Given the 83% shot, you have to take it. Blackwood increases those odds by about 2%.
#6
Posted 2014-November-27, 01:31
#7
Posted 2014-November-27, 01:34
mike777, on 2014-November-27, 00:16, said:
Fair enough - the 5th trumps certainly makes this hand a maximum splinter for me. However, even after 1M - 2NT you still need a way for both players to show shortage (in case responder has a hand too strong to splinter). Knowing about shape is sooooo much more important than knowing about controls in this kind of auction.
The simplest option is adding a one line agreement:
After 1M - 2NT, if opener rebids 3C (minimum) or 3D (bal extras), then the first new suit bid by EITHER player is shortage.
So for example:
1M 2NT
3D 4C* would show this hand
while
1M 2NT
3D 3H would be no shortage.
and after
1NT 2NT
3C* 3M
opener would show shortage (or bid 3NT without).
You can obviously improve considerably on this method, but it gets the job done and is a massive improvement over just control bidding.
#8
Posted 2014-November-27, 06:43
-P.J. Painter.
#9
Posted 2014-November-27, 06:50
#10
Posted 2014-November-27, 10:48
mcphee, on 2014-November-27, 06:50, said:
We had splinters available..I just decided that the hand seemed either too good or almost too good to use one...
Wasn't sure if I could get more information by splintering or starting with Jacoby.
Should have said in my post, but we are playing 2/1 w/ reverse bergen, splinters, and jacoby.
1M-2N
3C=all mins
3D=extras, no shortage
3H=extras, single club
and so on up to voids
Junior - Always looking for new partners to improve my play with..I have my fair share of brilliancy and blunders.
"Did your mother really marry a Mr Head and name her son Richard?" - jillybean
#11
Posted 2014-December-02, 07:54
RunemPard, on 2014-November-26, 17:05, said:
♠AKQx
♥QTxxx
♦Jxx
♣x
1♥-2N*
3♦*-3♠*
3N*-4♣*
4♦*-?
2N=Jacoby
3♦=extras, no shortness
3♠=control
3N=undiscussed
4♣=control
4♦=control
Agree up to here? Now what?
No. I would have Splintered instead of Jacoby 2nt. You must play a very low or tight range for your Splinters if this hand does not qualify...
S.
#12
Posted 2014-December-02, 08:40
#13
Posted 2014-December-02, 09:54
I'll keycard and bid 6. If all keys are there I might try for 7.