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Playing 5cM with a short club, what's the archetypal sort of hand for P to have for 3♣? Ie is it primarily competitive, presumably non-min, or primarily constructive (ie close to a normal jump rebid of 3♣?) What's the worst hand you would expect him to bid like this on? And, having got this far, what's your next action?
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What's partner showing, and what do you do about it?
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Posted 2016-August-26, 18:09
Playing 5cM with a short club, what's the archetypal sort of hand for P to have for 3♣? Ie is it primarily competitive, presumably non-min, or primarily constructive (ie close to a normal jump rebid of 3♣?) What's the worst hand you would expect him to bid like this on? And, having got this far, what's your next action?
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Posted 2016-August-26, 19:19
Jinksy, on 2016-August-26, 18:09, said:
Playing 5cM with a short club, what's the archetypal sort of hand for P to have for 3♣? Ie is it primarily competitive, presumably non-min, or primarily constructive (ie close to a normal jump rebid of 3♣?) What's the worst hand you would expect him to bid like this on? And, having got this far, what's your next action?
Whatever 3C shows, I don't think you have enough for game.
Some people play 2NT as a relay to differentiate between a good hand and a bad hand. Failing that, 3C is pretty wide range - from a minimum with lots of clubs to a hand that doesn't want to cuebid.
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Posted 2016-August-26, 19:31
You have a pass unless you are playing Good/Bad 2NT* here.
The percentages strongly favor partner holding minimum values.
Playing the Good/Bad 2NT* convention, 3C shows the values for a jump rebid in clubs
@16-18. You are worth a 3S bid(forcing) if partner is showing that type of hand.
With a minimum hand and 6+ clubs, partner bids 2NT* first and you normally
bid 3C with a weak type hand or you make a stronger bid with better hands.
The percentages strongly favor partner holding minimum values.
Playing the Good/Bad 2NT* convention, 3C shows the values for a jump rebid in clubs
@16-18. You are worth a 3S bid(forcing) if partner is showing that type of hand.
With a minimum hand and 6+ clubs, partner bids 2NT* first and you normally
bid 3C with a weak type hand or you make a stronger bid with better hands.
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Posted 2016-August-26, 21:31
I'd want partner to have 15-17 and 6+ ♣ cards for a free bid at the 3-level. 3♠ now keeps both ♠ and NT in the picture. That.
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Posted 2016-August-27, 02:02
hi Jinksy,
Horrible little hand. In the absence of any other conventions, I expect my partner to be 16+ with 6♣+ 3NT may be the only contract on, but by bidding 3♠ there's little chance it's going to be played from your side of the table.
But 3♠ (forcing) it is. You have to show that 6 timer ♠ suit. What happens beyond that is anyone's guess.
Horrible little hand. In the absence of any other conventions, I expect my partner to be 16+ with 6♣+ 3NT may be the only contract on, but by bidding 3♠ there's little chance it's going to be played from your side of the table.
But 3♠ (forcing) it is. You have to show that 6 timer ♠ suit. What happens beyond that is anyone's guess.
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Posted 2016-August-27, 02:28
Jinksy, on 2016-August-26, 18:09, said:
What's the worst hand you would expect him to bid like this on? And, having got this far, what's your next action?
I am definitely not one of those waiting for the day to hold 15-17 hcp and 6-7 card club suit to make this bid.
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I am bidding 3♣ with all 7 carders. Or 6 carder shapely hands.
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To me 3♣ shows shape, not beans. So I would pass with the hand in OP.
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